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tasha · Jan 16, 2009, 10:36 AM // 10:36

I have to say i'm not overly thrilled about the storage updates, primarily because I was one of those who has purchased additional accounts (on the cheap) over the last few years. While the opportunity to stash my tomes on my account rather than another would be nice, its not making me want to run around screaming like a toddler on lemonade. I am interested in the HoM updates and whatever else is on the cards. So, cautiously optimistic from this player.

Daesu · Jan 16, 2009, 10:41 AM // 10:41

The planned updates are great, if you are not that excited about them then so be it. So far I have not read any post that is AGAINST the storage update or the rest of the update.

These updates are not really new content though, it would be nice to have some new quests/missions and new content. Anway, it would still be a nice update.

Avarre · Jan 16, 2009, 11:06 AM // 11:06

This is not acceptable.

Update threads are for discussion of the updates and their implications, not to be used as a soapbox for your issues with the game, and definitely not for posting nonsense.

Discuss and debate the effects of the update in a civilized manner, or I will be made to close the thread.

Sjeng · Jan 16, 2009, 11:42 AM // 11:42

Well I'm sure excited about getting more storage. Bummer though it's gonna take so long... I hope they are going to add storage for:

- books (it has been discussed on Linsey's wiki)
- armor per character (at least 4x5 pieces)
- materials cap of at least 1000
- minipets!

that alone would take away 90% of my storage stress. But I'm happy with anything they come up with.

I also hope they'll add some sort of inventory/storage account-wide management function, so you can quickly swap around stuff amongst your characters + storage without the tedious logging out/in out/in over and over, while forgetting what you put where...

Shadowhaze · Jan 16, 2009, 11:46 AM // 11:46

Two storage tweaks? More storage at last sounds good to me. :P Armor and other storage improvements. *crosses fingers* Also interested to see what else they'll come up with.

shadows of hob · Jan 16, 2009, 12:08 PM // 12:08

O.o more storage? After nearly 4 years? Nice

But why can't they just ban hero's from HA. Everyone is QQing about it for weeks now....and they are right, it is extremely annoying.

Sirds · Jan 16, 2009, 12:09 PM // 12:09

Very nice, storage never be to much. Also HoM are interesting.

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We're going to be releasing some news to give you an idea of what we have in store

Spoiler: preorder GW2 ?

Foe · Jan 16, 2009, 12:44 PM // 12:44

pretty sure this was a Dear John from anet to the players. lol selling u guys on less support somehow being better and more. The final cruisecontrol/life support state of gws support and development has begun. Countdown to servers off initiated.

Ctb · Jan 16, 2009, 01:31 PM // 13:31

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They gave us something unheard of, unique, fantastic, brilliant graphics and game with no-monthly-fee.

No part of it either unheard of nor unique, and it wasn't the first online game with no monthly fee.

It was a great game and all and evolved and popularized a number of concepts that were somewhat uncommon at the time, but let's be realistic here. It's just an RPG with an online option and a 3D chat component. It's not terribly different from the player perspective from playing Diablo II on bNet years ago (obviously the infrastructure is more in line with WoW than bNet, but it doesn't appear that way to the player). It's just a lot prettier than that was.

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There were also issues involved with the way storage was designed/programmed in the code -- and these issues couldn't be tackled with just a month or two lead time, not with the number of people we have on the Live Team.

See, this is nice. A round-a-bout but honest response. Somebody dicked up the code and now it has to be fixed. 'kay. Makes sense. Unfortunate, but makes sense. Bummer for whoever got stuck with that crap task though. Trying to figure out someone else's boneheaded code is never a fun thing to do.

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I challenge you to have a work mate or friend, who insults, berates and abuses you every time you open your mouth. I challenge you to eat that isht every single time it happens, smile, and carry on like it's - and you - are of no importance.

I'd like you to introduce you to my product development team some day....

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Three years too late. Such idiots...

Shouldn't you be on youtube yelling at people for the bands they like and pretending to know kung fu or something?

Raven Wing · Jan 16, 2009, 01:39 PM // 13:39

Armor closet, library for books etc, looking forward to it

It would make me buy more armor sets hehe.
I appreciate any improvements, but still i cant stop thinking its a bit small and late.
Lets see when it is here and what other stuff we get that isnt memtioned before judging though.

Lycan Nibbler · Jan 16, 2009, 01:57 PM // 13:57

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Originally Posted by shadows of hob

But why can't they just ban hero's from HA. Everyone is QQing about it for weeks now....and they are right, it is extremely annoying.

Everyone that is so bad they cant beat an NPC you mean? Yes, I can see why that would be annoying.

Rocky Raccoon · Jan 16, 2009, 01:59 PM // 13:59

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Originally Posted by Avarre

This is not acceptable.

Update threads are for discussion of the updates and their implications, not to be used as a soapbox for your issues with the game, and definitely not for posting nonsense.

Discuss and debate the effects of the update in a civilized manner, or I will be made to close the thread.

Riverside: "Gather for community discussion on Guild Wars related topics, updates and more for the Prophecy, Factions and Nightfall campaigns."

While I agree that there is much nonsense being posted; I found no forum rule that if someone posts an update, that is all that can be discussed. By your definition to say thanks for the update is not allowed because it does not debate the effects on the game.

Tullzinski · Jan 16, 2009, 02:21 PM // 14:21

Here are a few features we are currently developing for April:

* Increases to account-based storage
* Improvements to character-based storage
* Account-based changes to the Hall of Monuments

Looks to me like these are not the ONLY updates planned. More bones for me to be happy about.

There was a saying I heard over and over during my 20 years in the US Navy:

A Happy Sailor is a Bitching Sailor!!!

Some of these people must be F&%#@!G elated!!!

It is when nobody is saying anything good or bad is when you have to worry.

hallomik · Jan 16, 2009, 02:53 PM // 14:53

I am interested in the comment that there will be both "account-based" and "character-based" increases to storage.

I've been thinking of different ways they could implement the account-based improvements (e.g., a storage tab for dyes, keys, tomes, or perfect mods). That would all be cool.

But what more interests me is the "character-based" storage. Does this mean that we will have 20-slot bags? An additional spot to place a bag? Armor storage or mini-pet storage in the HOM, etc? I think it would be really cool if they made 20-slot bags random drops at the end of elite missions or a lengthy scavenger hunt.

If they just hand out the increases, people will just take it without a whisper of gratitude. If they make us work for it, there will be a lot of QQ'ing by those that have stopped playing (and some others), but most active players will appreciate having to put in some effort to get the reward.

kostolomac · Jan 16, 2009, 03:04 PM // 15:04

I hope they make lightbringer/sunspear and the eotn rep titles account wide.

Horace Slughorn · Jan 16, 2009, 03:08 PM // 15:08

Does anyone else simply like the game as is? It's the only video game I play really, and I've been happy with it ever since it came out of the box. I play it because I enjoy the content that I originally purchased, not because I'm expecting a shiny new car every week from its developers. I thank Anet for anything they choose to add to this game, because if I were them, I would have taken my money and ran, rather than sticking around to deal with my b.s.

Ctb · Jan 16, 2009, 03:29 PM // 15:29

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Does anyone else simply like the game as is?

The bread-and-butter mechanic of RPGs is, was, and will continue to be the excitement of discovery. It's how games like WoW and Diablo, with their painfully simplistic grind mechanics, still manage to keep people hooked: the knowledge that some new enemy, item, or area is coming up after I collect just a few more wolf pelts.

Most people won't keep playing if there's nothing new to do, so they need to update things. I would suggest, however, they do something more significant than just storage if they're not doing an update until April. MOX and z-keys, while I personally didn't care about them, were a good move, but they're competing with LOTRO and WoW releasing expansions, EvE will be releasing a new content update, and all those games constantly add new areas, quests, events, NPCs, items, etc.

Unless they intend to try and market Guild Wars 2 from a dead stop in a few years, they really need to keep this game up to date to retain players so they have a little bit of momentum going in. It won't matter how great a game it is, if they can't get enough people in the doors at the offset to help recoup losses incurred during development, it will fail. Ask Lord British and his experience with Tabula Rasa if you want to know how that goes.

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I thank Anet for anything they choose to add to this game, because if I were them, I would have taken my money and ran, rather than sticking around to deal with my b.s.

Which is why you'll never be a successful business owner. Customers are often stubborn, short-sighted, naive, and ignorant (the last part compounds multiple times when talking about video game nerds with an internet connection), but they're still the ones holding the money, so you still have to smile and oblige them to a reasonable extent.

Dronte · Jan 16, 2009, 03:35 PM // 15:35

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Originally Posted by draxynnic

It was a 10. No-one used it. Even at 8 it's not worth an elite slot when compared to Golden Phoenix Strike. 6 you might have an argument for.

Guess what; it didnt apply cripple before! Its only being abused because of trampling ox, and also, its a high dmg low recharge touch skill with UNCONDITIONAL damage. GPB is NOWHERE near that.

ne33us · Jan 16, 2009, 03:36 PM // 15:36

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Coming Attractions

Here are a few features we are currently developing for April:

1) Increases to account-based storage
2) Improvements to character-based storage
3) Account-based changes to the Hall of Monuments

How I read the above (Wishlist interpretation)

1) = Extra tab on "Xunlai Chest", where I can put items that are "for sale on a price I set for each one" and people can buy them from there wether I'm online or not.

2) = "Trade bag" where I can put items that are "for sale on a price I set for each one" and people "in the outpost I'm in" can buy them when I post an "Open market" post in the "Trade Section" of "Party Search".

3) = HoM will be turned into a server(s) wide "Trade Station" where you can find all "Xunlai Chest" sellers and trade with them.

Ok, I might be off topic, and I might sound like a trade freak, but I would easily become one if there where "content updates" in that direction.

And plz don't flame me, I don't look good in red or burned-black.

Other that that, ...

I welcome any game update, of any kind, from the people that still support this game actively in all of it aspects, and more than that, they still keep a close eye on the game's community and all the ongoing criticism/suggestions posted, and respond to that in the best way they can afford, at any given time.

Gun Pierson · Jan 16, 2009, 04:22 PM // 16:22

I was a bit pessimistic earlier on. I should be happy with the storage improvements as it was one of the three things I thought would improve the game some time ago.

1. Storage
2. Auction House or alike
3. 7 heroes

One will be implemented by April, okay wonderful. Better late than never I guess.

My apologies to the Live Team.